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Primer la seva descripció:
Preguntes:"Yesterday, Christmas came very late, as I was fortunate enough to attend an advance screening of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.
As I duck the volley of butterbeers thrown my way, I have to say I was rather impressed. The version I saw was not a finished product in that some of the soundtrack and CGI hadn't been completed in time for the screening, but what you do get is a version of the movie that's about 85% complete. The dialog and final edits seem to be complete so you get a film that was easy to follow. The CGI that wasn't complete usually centered on creatures that were rendered as either animatics or rough versions of the finished product.
The movie opens with the audience being introduced to some of the Order of the Phoenix, including Tonks, who's being played by Natalia Tena, as they whisk Harry away to Grimmauld Place. All of the returning players did an excellent job with the script and have seemed to really settle into their characters. Their on-screen ease translates into a much more digestible storyline. And for the new cast members, among them, the ineffably delightful Imelda Staunton as Dolores Umbridge made the experience all the more delightful. Newcomer Evanna Lynch had a great turn as the eccentric Luna Lovegood. Her scenes with Harry had the audience chuckling. The biggest laugh of the film was also tied to Harry; however, it's what preceded this laugh that will have some of Daniel's fans swooning.
We see Harry's first kiss. In the room of requirement, after most of the members of Dumbledore's Army leave, he's left alone with Cho and she tells him how difficult it's been for her after Cedric died. They just sort of get closer and finish in a long kiss which he later relates, in comic detail, to Hermione and Ron in the common room.
It's clear throughout the movie that Harry is maturing and finding his place in this world where Voldemort has not only returned but has strengthened his numbers.
Maturity is a recurring theme for some of the other characters as well and everyone is beginning to take responsibility for their actions.
One more standout performance, that would be tragic if I didn't mention it, has to be Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix Lestrange. She is one of the three actresses who floated around in my head when I read the book. Her performance was over the top, but I quite expected it from her character.
All in all, the movie is a quick paced fun ride which is sure to wow audiences with the sharp visual effects and provide staunch literalists with a balanced story line. Director David Yates, who has mostly worked in television, has helmed a great movie. Condensing a book of near 900 pages into a film of tolerable length would be a challenge for any director, let alone one who's new to feature films.
Yes, there are deep cuts, but the heart of the story is faithfully represented. Hopefully, the built in fan base, who can be rabid and quite militant at times, will appreciate this movie and for new fans (obviously living under a rock for the last decade) of the series it will serve as an explosive introduction. I will be in line to see the finished product many, many, times.
Runtime is approximately 140 minutes or 2:20."
- Yes, there were dementors, but they took a slightly different form than in POA. They look skeletal.
-I didn't know Harry's first kiss is supposed to be funny
- The kiss isn't funny, it's the description to Ron and Hermione by Harry when posed the question of how it went that was hilarious.
-What was Natalie Tena like as Tonks? How much was she in it? Just a little bit? Was there any Tonks/Lupin interaction?
- Natalie was great and funny, although she didn't have much screen time. There was no discernable Tonks/Lupin interaction.
-How was the battle at the ministry? Did Hermione get hit with that curse? How was Dumbledore in the fight with Voldemort? Was he calm?
-The battle at the ministry was great. Very suspenseful due to the setting; you'll understand, when you see the movie what I mean. No curse whirled Hermione's way. Dumbledore was ever the consumate wizard, calm and inventive to say the least
- You mention that the movie began with the Advance Guard, but we've seen stills from scenes relating to the dementor attack in Privet Drive, so how is that dealt with?
- Harry produces his patronus and knocks the dementors out, leading to his trial at the Ministry
-You also mentioned "deep cuts", which we all expect, but (in your opinion) did they cut enough to keep it from feeling like a $300 million dollar slide show like Goblet of Fire? I personally felt like everything in GoF was dealt with at light-speed, but how would you say the pacing feels in relation to Movie 4?
I have to say, the movie moves quite quickly, but I think they learned their lesson from the brief treatment they gave scene like the Q'ich world cup. The scenes we are treated to last as long as they are relevant. The cuts come from the ancillary stories which float throughout the book, but don't really move the story forward.
-I'm sorry, but I don't feel like I've been told anything. Exactly what in that "review" would be considered a spoiler?
Well, I am trying not to reveal too much as many fans would rather 'go in cold' and not know anything. The fact we've all read the book inherently means we can't really be 'spoiled' by what is put up on-screen. I will say this, there aren't any scenes which you would say were 'invented' for the movie. Everything I saw corresponded to something in the book.
-First things first... as a huge Rupert fan, I'm curious as to how you received Ron's scenes? Funny as always? Any standout scenes? I miss that he doesn't get the chance to do dramatic scenes. He'd have had the chance had they not cut out quidditch.
-And then I have to ask about Ron and Hermione. Was it subtle? The book tends to be very subtle with them, but I know Matt Lewis said there was a lot. Was there in your opinion?
Ron was, sadly, a minor part of the movie. This film centers on Harry and the DA as a whole. A theme of the movie is teamwork and that is exactly what we see. There is very little row amongst the students save for a scene between Seamus and Harry, but Ron comes to his aid and all is forgotten. Rupert is funny as always in few scenes, but, alas as you say nothing dramatic for him to sink his teeth into.
Ron and Hermione. Subtle and constant tension between the two. They are both becoming excellent actors and have played the scenes very well. The little gestures and looks between them connote their forshadowed relationship very well. There you go, shippers.
-Ohh, and how was the Black Family Tapestry???
The Black family tapestry is indeed in the movie, however, some of the CGI behind it wasn't completed and some of what I saw was green screen. It is rather lush and detailed though as Sirius explains to Harry what it is and why he's got a spot over his name.
-and how about grawp? did you get to see him? What's his role like? Never found a real attraction to that chapter in the book... I usually skip it if I don't feel like a detailed reread.
Grawp makes his appearance and has a role in saving the kids from Umbridge, but, mercifully (as I am in your camp concering this character) his screen time is minimal.
- What about Umbridge?
- Imelda plays the part, as I've said before, like a cobra wrapped in a silk blanket. She's mean, but it just bubbles up here and there. She is just the right amount of cruel.
- I have only one question, which is: what did Umbridge have Harry write on his hand? Is it really "I will not break rules"? Or did they end up going with the book and have him write "I must not tell lies"?? And if it is "I must not break rules" did it seem childish or did they make it work???
- She made him write, "I must not tell lies". And it's a brutal scene. Some of the younger kids in the audience were wincing as were some adults. The entire DA is subjected to this later in the movie, except Cho.
-How were the politics dealt with in the movie? Did you feel like the government was putting pressure on Hogwarts? Oh, and how was the scene where Dumbledore escapes?
The Ministry is seen as a bit totalitarian in scope and it seems that the Minister is portrayed as a bit of a dictator with Umbridge as his right hand. Dubledore's escape was spectacular, that's all I'm going to say about it.
would you say, that to fans, the Ootf movie is more or less disappointing than Gof? Should I have high or low hopes? I definetly don't want to expect more when there's less. I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
It will be significantly less disappointing to fans. I think your hopes won't be dashed when you see this film. In the forums I have posted on adaptation of book to film. It pretty much covers my thoughts on the subject. See Argent Scrim's Film Emporium Forum, under Order of the Phoenix Test Screening. Thanks.
-Any foreshadowing between Harry and Ginny?
Very little, they share a look between them that 'book' fans will catch, but regular fans of the films won't get the foreshadowing.
-I am EXTREMELY curious, is the part with Twins and busting out of Hogwarts from the great hall flying on their brooms in the movie? Because if not, i would be devastated as that is my favorite part of all the books.
Yes. That scene is in the movie, but sadly it doesn't feature the swamp spell they cast. But it is one of the more memorable scenes in the movie. Incredible effects.
-So, the question is: what are Ron and Hermione gonna be doing while the DD/Vold./Harry fight?
They are being held by Deatheaters as they weren't as successful in the fight as you'd hope.
Tell me they didnt cut the scene where harry throws and shouts at dumbledores office? Oh and please tell me that was heartbreaking .. tell me that Dan improved a lot ! please
They didn't. It's a powerful scene and Dan's acting (as have most of the younger regular cast) has vastly improved. It isn't as heartbreaking as you may think. The book causes you to empathise with Harry, but Daniel can only do so much. It was a good scene, though.
-What exactly is shown with all of the Privet Drive stuff? How long are the Dursleys in the film? Does it begin with them?
Dudley's gang (which are quite hilarioius when you come from the West-side of Chicago) confront Harry on the playground. It kinda feels like a scene out of Training day at first, 'cause London for some reason has a heatwave going on and all the grass is dry. The Dursley's are in the film the requisite 10-15 min. necessary, then Moody and co. come to take Harry to Grimmauld.
-I would like to ask if there's at least any scenes referring to quidditch -- that connects Ron to becoming the new goal-keeper. Is there really no Hermione giving Ron a kiss?
No and no, sadly.
-Secondly, I have a question for you. I am a very big Remus Lupin fan, did he have much screen time at all?
Very little, I'm sorry. I was so hoping there'd be a little about him and Tonks, but alas, it was not to be.
-On Bellatrix what is her part like at the end before the duel with Dumbledore and Voldemort? How does she interact with Voldemort and Harry?
She doesn't interact with Harry too much and she just sort of hisses at Neville when everyone faces off with eachother. She's mean, no doubt, and let's Neville know she's #1 on her list.
- Was Mr. Weasley's attack in the movie? A yes or no will be fine for me. I just want to know.
-What were the DA lessons like? Do we get to see pairs duel?
- The lessons begin awkwardly, then with everyone gaining confidence in their abilities, including the little shutterbug kid (sorry can't remember his name right now, moving too fast) you start to see progress. The DA lesson scenes were some of the most memorable in the movie. Yes, there are duels in the film, but ONE in particular is going to blow up the forums.
-And you also said that we get the post-H/C kiss scene where Harry describes it, does that mean we also get the 'emotionl range of a teaspoon'scene?
Yes, it's a very funny line delivered with perfect comedic timing by Emma.
-I want to know if the Dudley/Dementors/Dursleys scene is like the book. I am dying to see that
It's fairly accurate, as I remember it in the book.
-1. Was the particular person's death whom I shall not name dramatic and well acted?
2. Is there a trip to St. Mungo's?
3. Is there the spinning entrance room with floating candles in the DoM?
4. Did Sirius have more screen time than in PoA and GoF? THANKS SO MUCH!!
Yes and yes. No, I was hoping to see St. Mungo's as well. N/A. Yes, much more and quality time too.
please, what were Ron, Hermione, Luna and Neville doing in the last fight scene?
Being held by Deatheaters. You didn't think they were going to overcome wizards with so much more experience, did you? They hold their own for a while, but, you know.
-So Tonks hair DOES change color? There has been much debate on that.
I don't remember it changing. But, her appearance changes when she's sitting down at the dinner table, morphing between different animal visages.
-How are the relationships in the movie? I don't mean the romantic ones. Like how was Harry's relationship with Dumbledore, Ron and Hermione, and Sirius?
They reflect his maturing and growing independence from them. With Dumbledore's distancing himself from Harry (for his own sake) we see that Harry realizes he has got to learn to make decision on his own and that the time for him to have a mentor constantly around to monitor those decision is passing. The trio dynamic doesn't manifest itself as well as we'd like to see. Harry is viewed as a leader, so Ron and Hermione rarely challenge him and fall into more submissive roles than were used to. As for with Sirius, he's Harry's only connection to his family and he treasures his relationship with him. Sirius seems to be the only one Harry won't contradict as well. Their interaction, while active throughout the film, doesn't bode well for Harry, psychologically speaking in the climax of the movie. Oh the humanity at the end.
Were there any scenes you thought were boring or ran too long? Any details you thought should have been cut?
I'm pretty concerned about the ending. Did they handle all the exposition well in Dumbledore's office?
Well, since you asked. If I were going to trim some fat out of the movie, I'd cut some of Hagrid introducing the trio to his brother, but he does play a key role in dispatching Umbridge. It could have played a little faster in those scenes. They handled the exposition well in the office but it does come at you rather quickly. To the non-book readers out there (all two of you), you better get a Cliff's notes version of OotP. LOL
-In Snape's Worst Memory, does Lily stick up for Snape after James and Sirius start teasing him and does Snape call her a mudblood?
Never happend. Sorry.
I read on IMDB that the scene where AD and V fights is really good, plus the whole possesion of Harry's body was very well done and very well acted.
YES. It's no Vader-Kenobi in EpIII, but magically speaking, it rocks the house. So inventive, those two and the visuals are great. It's easy to see where the money went. The possession of Harry was, indeed, well acted. Daniel has come along way from whence he uttered, in an unbelievable lilt, "Give that back, Malfoy!" Harry's possession is very real and that's saying something considering there isn't much going on visually to aid Daniel.
-How was the reaction of Harry when he find out that Cho was the snich?
Everyone files past her as they come out of Umbridges concentration camp classroom with Harry being the last and he walks right past her. No stealing glance, no ounce of recognition. It was very cold. I felt bad for Cho, since she didn't snitch on purpose.
Is Ron still made a coward in this movie? Does he have some action? Do we get to see any jealousy about Krum or any outward affection between Ron and Hermione?
No. Ron is definately more confident than he was in the past. Ron would say, Krum Who? No PDA's between R/H. Sorry shippers.
-neville/hospital when he see's his parents?? i take it that did NOT make the final cut???
Nope. Into the ether it went.
-is Aunt Petunia's howler in it? If it is, was it as "mysterious" on screen as it was in the book? Thanks again!
No, sorry. No mysteries with the Dursleys, only exposition to a side of them I'd thought I'd never see given Surrey's climate.
-How did Harry know about the Room of Requirements? And was Cho the snake? Did they actually make snake-tirck thingy on her face?
-Did Mrs. Weasley's boggart make it?
-I take it there's no St. Mungo's, so no Neville with his parents?
-And lastly: How many times did they make Ron make the infamous film!Ron-funny-scared-stupid face?!
Room of requirement discovered by Neville and explained by Hermione, of course. No snake 'thingy' as you say. No boggart to speak of. No Mungo's. Surprisingly, NONE!.
-Do the Maruaders look how you imagined when reading the books?
-From 1-10 (1 being the worst, 10 being the best), how would you rate Snape's Worst Memory in the film?
Sort of, I always imagined this little motley crew of kinda outlaws and that's what they looked like. I just didn't expect them to vary in age and appearance so much. BTW..BONUS, BONUS! Wait 'til you see Moody on a broom! I'd rate it a 7. It could have been longer.
-1)Is the line "You know minister, I disagree with Dumbledore on many counts, but you cannot deny hes got style" in the film?
2)I know they were rough special effects, but from what you could see, were the fireworks in the film as they descrived in the book? With dragons and spinning wheels, and curse words in the sky, from what we saw in the trailer, they just look like mini normal fireworks.
3)Do they show the twins trying to sell their merchandise to students, and when the leave do they tell them to visit their premises?
4)I know rita has been cut, but is it ture they dont have Luna or her father write the quibbler article that tells Harrys side of the story?
Yes, indeed it is and to the great delight of the audience. it got a big laugh. Yes, the trailer only showed you the beginning of that scene. It starts out small, but gets ridiculous! Yes, they sell some of their wares, but Umbridge halts that. No, no quibbler article, but you do see her reading a copy ofthe quibbler when we first see her in the carriage being pulled by the thestral.
-1. What do think was the best part of the movie (Dumbledore's Army, Fred and George Escape, etc..)
2. Which scene did you find most FAITHFUL to the book.
3. Does Ginny get more screen time, she is such a cool character and she DESERVES to be on the screen.
4. Does the movie try people the Harry/Ginny relationship for next movie? It's going to be important for HBP, and when she marries Harry in Deathly Hallows, the movie will have to explain it to non-HP fans.
The climactic scene at the end in the Ministry of Magic. The arrival at hogwarts with Luna seemed in mind to be the most faithful to the book (again, my opinion). Ginny doesn't get more screen time, but she is seen as powerful as she demonstrates in the DA lessons. No, no overt H/G shipping is implied or expressed other than a little glance at the end of a scene.
-Did they have Hermione writing the letter to Krum? Also, while we're on Hermione do they have the part in Umbridge's class where Umbridge wants them to read and Hermione's already read the whole book?
Whose idea is it to start the DA? And how was the scene in the Hog's Head?
It's a Krum-free zone, sorry. Nope, she doesn't challenge her that way, but she does challenge her authority. The DA results from Ron and Hermione telling Harry that they have to learn how to defend themselves. At the Hog's head, we get to see Abelforth for a quick second AND one of his goats, LOL! The scene there was great, the whole team committing to the DA, even Collin! I just remembered his name, sorry about that earlier.
-"Yes, there are deep cuts"? Like what?? I need to know what's not there so I won't be so sorely disappointed when it comes out!
There are too many to list. I can't even give an example. First, because I haven't read the book in over a year, and secondly because it's a 900 page book condensed into a 140 min. movie. One page of screenplay = approximately 1 min. of screen time. You do the long division to find the ratio of what was cut out.
-Do we know if Ron and Hermione are Prefects?
Also, what role does Draco have in the film?
No, it's never mentioned. Draco is Umbridge's lackey in the anti-DA organization. I don't recall it's name. I apologize.
-How long approx was Snape's Worst Memory?
And was there much interaction between Snape and Lily? Do we see the grey underpants? XP
3-4 Min, tops. None that I recall, no grey underpants seen. Just hanging up in the tree.
-How do fred and george explain how they got the money for their jokeshop? Is it even in it?
No jokeshop, no explanation necessary.
-does Harry and Hermione go with Umbridge to the forest or there are other students with them...
Just those three.
-does Harry and Hermione go with Umbridge to the forest or there are other students with them...
Just those three.
how was the Dumbledore and Voldermort wizard duel scenes near the end of the movie? Were they a nice reflection of the book's version?
Yes, the scene is lush with visuals and a fair representation of what I remember being in the book. The scene doesn't drag and is done intelligently. You have to remember, these are the Director's concept of what the book was trying to connote. If it did so or not, will be the opinion-makers' charge. In my opinion, he did a splendid job of telling the story in the book. I could be wrong, but my 30+ years of watching and 2 years of (failed, so far) writing them tells me I saw a great film. That's all I can offer.
1. If they've cut the Quibbler, then what's their explanation for Harry writing lines?
2. Does Luna ever wear her lion hat? What is Luna like in general? Is Evanna as awesome as we've hoped?
3. Who was the best new character?
4. Is Kreacher there? How big of a part does he play?
Harry is writing lines for his claims about Voldemort in Umbridge's class. No Lion hat. Luna, is great. She's kooky and has this eccentric feel to her. Evanna is wonderful, during the brief moments she's on-screen.Kreacher is featured and is just the jerk you hope he is. I didn't see his final rendered form, but he was like Dobby, but a little more sinister.
s the Pesnsieve scene "Snape´s Worst Memory" as cruel as in the books or easier to bear?
Much easier to bear. In the book it was excrutiatingly humiliating. There's little of that conveyed in the film.
-I wanted to know if Ron ends up with his brain scars in the end or even gets attacked by the brains. Also how is the relationship between Ron and Hermione in this film?
No brain scars, never happens. They are sailing on the H.M.S. Platonic. Sorry shippers.
-Also you mentioned 'Colin' earlier. Has he returned in the film? Or you do mean 'Nigel' who they brought in randomly in the 4th film? How about class time? How many are in the 5th film, and which lessons are they? Is flitwick still different from the 1st two films? Now he looks so different! And what teachers were shown in the film? In the 4th film I found the script very 'awkward'. Has it improved? Last of all, I noticed in the 4th film there wern't actually many spells, but just hand movements with the wand, how is it now in OOTP?
My bad. You are correct. It is Nigel. Very little class time, only with Umbridge and specifically the O.W.L.'s are discussed and what is necessary to pass them. Yes, he's still different. Very few teachers besides, McGonagal, Umbridge, and Trelawney (who has a nice dramatic turn). Yes, the script seems to be much more polished than last time. It's a mixture of both, when they are learning the spells, they are saying them all the time, but when they meet Deatheaters in the Ministry, they don't utter them all the time. Perplexing if you know the canon as they never touch on not enunciating the incantation.
Mini resum ràpid del que m'enrecordo mentre he anat copiant: no surt l'entrevista de la Rita que després publica el pare de la Luna, en Neville és qui descobreix la sala de la necessitat, com ja es preveia la part de St Mungos se la salten (no veurem els pares d'en Neville) tot i que ha dit que l'atac al Sr Weasley si que es produia i sembla que la batalla al ministeri la canvien una mica perquè ha dit diverses vegades que en Ron, l'Hermione, la Luna i la resta (excepte en Harry) estaven sent retinguts pels cavallers de la mort enlloc d'estar lluitant..